#237 big request: IOS

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opened 7 months ago by ghostlands · 3 comments

When trying to open up a line of communication with a new person unfamiliar with security tools, it’s already difficult if not impossible to suggest an easy-to-acquire-and-understand app that is compatible with any of the more involved methods that I already use.

Cwtch may fill this niche, but only on non-Apple hardware, which realistically is the exclusive means of communication for many millions of people. It’s a pretty big oversight to create a vision that excludes such an enormous percentage of the population.

I’m not actually a fan of Apple products - it’s just that they aren’t really going away.

When trying to open up a line of communication with a new person unfamiliar with security tools, it's already difficult if not impossible to suggest an easy-to-acquire-and-understand app that is compatible with any of the more involved methods that I already use. Cwtch may fill this niche, but only on non-Apple hardware, which realistically is the exclusive means of communication for many millions of people. It's a pretty big oversight to create a vision that excludes such an enormous percentage of the population. I'm not actually a fan of Apple products - it's just that they aren't really going away.
sarah commented 7 months ago
Owner

We agree, and would eventually love to have Cwtch available on iOS.

It’s a pretty big oversight to create a vision that excludes such an enormous percentage of the population.

Not an oversight, we have applied for funding which included budget for producing an iOS app, but as of the time of writing this, none of those funding requests have been successful

As we’ve mentioned before the main blocker to an iOS/mac version of Cwtch is funding (either directly to Open Privacy or to/from someone in the community) to develop the infrastructure necessary to build/support the app. iOS is a completely separate ecosystem and requires almost as much work as an android app, we are a small team with limited budget and so we have to put our efforts where we think they will be successful.

If someone wants to develop an iOS version of Cwtch we welcome that support. Cwtch is open source and we will offer all the help we can to make it a reality. If someone wants to fund Open Privacy to produce an iOS version of Cwtch we welcome that also.

We agree, and would eventually love to have Cwtch available on iOS. > It's a pretty big oversight to create a vision that excludes such an enormous percentage of the population. Not an oversight, we have applied for funding which included budget for producing an iOS app, but as of the time of writing this, none of those funding requests have been successful As we've mentioned before the main blocker to an iOS/mac version of Cwtch is funding (either directly to Open Privacy or to/from someone in the community) to develop the infrastructure necessary to build/support the app. iOS is a completely separate ecosystem and requires almost as much work as an android app, we are a small team with limited budget and so we have to put our efforts where we think they will be successful. If someone wants to develop an iOS version of Cwtch we welcome that support. Cwtch is open source and we will offer all the help we can to make it a reality. If someone wants to fund Open Privacy to produce an iOS version of Cwtch we welcome that also.
ghostlands commented 7 months ago
Poster

I figured as much, and wouldn’t have even filed this bug except that the searches I did across the internet and here in the issue tracker didn’t find any discussions with intersections of IOS and Cwtch.

If there really has not been public discussion of this to date, maybe we could change the purpose of this bug to “create public rfa for IOS” ;)

Thanks for the great work thus far btw.

I figured as much, and wouldn't have even filed this bug except that the searches I did across the internet and here in the issue tracker didn't find any discussions with intersections of IOS and Cwtch. If there really has not been public discussion of this to date, maybe we could change the purpose of this bug to "create public rfa for IOS" ;) Thanks for the great work thus far btw.
dan commented 7 months ago
Owner

I think we just addressed it a few times in twitter comments only, such as: https://twitter.com/dan_ballard/status/1096322393486745600

easy to miss, twitter search is… not good.

I don’t have a good understanding of the mac dev/publishing ecosystem, but roughly, we’d need a macos computer with 16GB ram and a dev license just to work for macos and I assume more licenses for iOs and also then a iphone. Currently we have 0 of those things, and I am guessing that’s close to $3k of new hardware and I don’t even know what in software licenses.

if someone with most of all of those things wants to work with us, that would also be great!

I think we just addressed it a few times in twitter comments only, such as: https://twitter.com/dan_ballard/status/1096322393486745600 easy to miss, twitter search is... not good. I don't have a good understanding of the mac dev/publishing ecosystem, but roughly, we'd need a macos computer with 16GB ram and a dev license just to work for macos and I assume more licenses for iOs and also then a iphone. Currently we have 0 of those things, and I am guessing that's close to $3k of new hardware and I don't even know what in software licenses. if someone with most of all of those things wants to work with us, that would also be great!
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